to trust him, to guide him, even in his weaknesses, he said. and it was also in its christian message, also, very interesting and perhaps surprising, because this pope, who is known as a searing intellect, used as the focus of his final message the most simple message of the church which is love the joy of being a christian. father, your thoughts? >> there's a direct line, i think, as i listened to that talk, between the pope kissing babies on the way in, but we all commented the pope as papa. i heard during this final talk, all of those overtones -- >> and the shouts that we heard from the crowd. >> right. not just a title, that's great significance. he's father of the church. i have the title of father, which i love.